Process:
When I started doing some research about aluminum casting I came across a series of books which were written by David Gingery back in the 80s the first of which dealt with the aluminum foundry concepts. In the second book he's using the foundry to build himself a metal lathe.
Back about a year ago I figured it's pretty neat and I decided to try building one. However, after about 50 hours or so I kinda lost interest and other more urgent projects came up so I put the lathe on the back burner. When Melanie kicked me out of the house and told me to go to the shop and enjoy the last two months of my parental leave in January 2013 I figured I might as well start on restoring my 1949 ducati cucciolo moped I inherited. However, I needed a sand blasting cabinet first, so I built one. Then I needed a polisher/buffer, so I built one, then came the need for a metal lathe so...yes, you guessed it...I built one. This post is about my lathe project.
I never knew how complex a metal lathe really is. Essentially, it's a very sturdy and precise tool that turns metal around one axis. Then, there's a cutter that is mounted on a carriage which can move left/right (x-axis), in/out (y-axis) and any combination of the x and y axes (yes, the plural of axis is axes).
Instead of explaining it all in words, I'll have plenty of pictures with a description of each step below.
Videos:
Pictures:
This picture was taken from wikipedia to list the parts of the lathe carriage
1: Tool post
2: Top-slide
2a: Top-slide feed screw and dial
2b: Compound portion of top-slide
3: Cross-slide
3b: Cross-slide feedscrew and dial
4: Saddle
5: Apron
5a: Carriage hand wheel
5b: Half-nut lever
5c: Feed lever
Wood pattern for the bed using Gingery's dimensions
Support Foot for the bed using Gingery's dimensions
The mold for the bed
After the bed was cast
After the bed were shaken out
Second try at the bed casting; the first one was warped and unusable
Looks better now
The support feet for the bed and a set of vise jaw chucks
The support feet with the sprues cut off
The assembled bed with support feet
I realized that this was going to be way too small for what I wanted so I decided to up-scale Gingery's dimensions to make it wider and longer.
The up-scaled pattern for the bed support feet
The up-scaled pattern for the bed, 4" wide, 24" long
The bed pattern in the cope of the sand mold
The drag portion of the sand mold of the bed
Separating the cope and the drag of the bed sand mold was a real challenge
I had to use a car jack on one side and a hydraulic separator on the other side because the sand mold weighed about 60 lbs and it had to be lifted perfectly vertical so as to not damage the mold cavity. This took a long time and about 4 tries to get perfect.
The other side of the bed mold
And then after 3 hours of work I poured the aluminum just to find out I had forgotten to cut the in-gate (about 1/2 by 1/2 inch in the sand mold) so it didn't fill the cavity it was supposed to but instead leaked out of the mold. I was SO mad!!!
The "art" that cost me 3hours...
For the next attempt I didn't pour the aluminum fast enough so it created mis-runs. Another 3 hours gone!
And then I finally cast the first full part just to find huge shrink cavities. Another 3 hours down the drain!
Here, I didn't put enough weight on the sand mold so the hydrostatic pressure of the molten aluminum separated the two parts of the sand mold and leaked everything out the side! Another costly mistakes (time-wise)
Re-hydrating the green sand after the parts were shaken out of the mold. The sand was still hot, hence the steam
Finally! The 4th or 5th try gave me a bed I found acceptable
The slab of 3/8 steel, 5" by 24" that became the bedways. I had to get it from Halifax because nobody had cold rolled steel here in Moncton
My neighbor used my cast of the bed to test his CNC router/miller machine he built.
There was a small shrink cavity in the center of the bed but since it was gonna be covered by the bedways I accepted the flaw for the sake of continuing on.
The underside of the bed
The assembled support feet, bed and bedways
A view from the bottom
Pattern for the cross slide
The cast cross slide. I had to re-do this one because the hydrostatic pressure separated the cope and the drag and spilled the aluminum out the side
Cross slide cast, machined with my neighbor's CNC machine and installed on the bedways
Pattern and sand mold of the cross slide
After the aluminum was poured
The raw casting of the cross slide which is also the base for the compound portion of the top slide
My stash of aluminum ingots I got from about 15 lawn mowers and some transmission cases. All in all about 60lbs
Pattern of the ball handle
Three ball handles cast on 1/2" bolts. Unfortunately, I couldn't hammer out the bolts so I had to melt them all up again!
Compound portion of the top slide
2 Ball handles, the compound portion of the top slide and the top slide
Compound slide ways installed
The carriage is almost done
The tool post is mounted on the top slide
Another view
And from the back
The pattern for the split nut
Nathaniel helping me shake out the casts
The apron and the lead screw bearings
The split nut with the threaded rod core still in place
The split nut, a knob, the lead screw bearings and the apron cast, cleaned up and sand blasted
Close-up of the split nut
A view from the underside of the carriage
Taking a break to figure out how to wire the switches so I can have high/low forward/reverse with the motor
I bought a 4-step pulley at Canadian Tire but since I needed a couple of them and they were each 20 bucks I figured I'd use it to make a pattern of the original and cast my own.
Filling in the back with alginate
Casting a negative imprint of the pulley with alginate
The mold of half the pulley
Using Smooth-Cast 300, a plastic resin to create a positive pattern of half a pulley
The resin hardened in about 10-15 minutes
I cast two halves so it would be easier to create the sand mold
Adding some indexing pins to align the two halves
Here I made a single 5" pulley pattern
Creating a sand mold with the two pulley patterns
After the cast was shaken out
After the pulleys were cleaned up
Here's the cast of the split nut handle
The motor mounting base
After it was sand blasted
The assembled motor mechanism with the v-belt tightener
Another view of the motor mechanism
Here I calculated the spindle speeds with the high and low settings of the motor
Starting to make the pattern for the head stock
Drilling the head stock
The finished pattern of the head stock
Nathaniel helping me shake out the head stock
The cleaned up head stock. Unfortunately, I didn't line up the holes properly on the wood pattern so the spindle was not parallel to the bedways so I had to re-do the entire head stock pattern and make another cast. There's a bit of a hot tear but since it wouldn't affect the strength of the head stock I decided to leave it and not spend another 3 hours casting a new one
The head stock mounted on the bedways and ready for boring
Boring the head stock with a 5/8" boring bar and a temporary head stock
The adjustment template to move the boring bar cutter head in increments of 10 thousands of an inch for each pass
The bored head stock with the bronze bushings installed
Here I'm turning down one of the 5" pulleys
The rough cut and then a smoother finishing pass on the inside. The lathe was creating quite a bit of chatter and a very rough cut until I added some brass shims around the bronze bushings to tighten up the spindle. That made a huge difference and created a pristine finish
Turning down one of the three 4-step pulleys I cast. I need two of to actually run the lathe so I made one spare one to turn down and one-by-one replace the rough ones that I used to run the lathe
A cleaned up pulley. This was done before I fixed the bushings so the surface is still quite rough but at least concentric enough to run the v-belt without whobbling.
Another view of the pulley
Next on the list was to make a pattern of the face plate. This one is 3/4" thick and 7" diameter
These are patterns of the slots in the face plate. I used these to fill the rough slots in the pattern with autobody putty and make them perfectly centered and aligned at 90 degrees to each other
The patterns of a smaller ball handle, the base for the tailstock set-over ways and a reduction pulley for the automatic lead feed screw
From top left, counter-clockwise: Base for the tailstock set-over ways, face plate, ball handle for tail stock, ball handle for cross slide, pulley for automatic lead feed screw, knob for the compound slide and the reduction pulley
After the parts were cleaned up and the face plate as well as the small pulley was turned
A few iron chips from turning a 3/4" cold rolled steel spindle down to 1/2"
Aluminum chips from turning down the reduction pulley and the face plate
A before and after picture of the reduction pulley
Hand scraping the base for the set-over ways of the tail stock. I used a 9x12 surface plate I had ordered from Brunswick Industrial and some engineer's blue. After about an hour of scraping I decided to leave it and move on. It's not as perfect as I would like it to be but decided to leave it for time's sake since I have to go back to work from my 9 month parental leave in one week
The base for the set-over ways of the tailstock scraped and ready for the tailstock
Building the pattern for the tail stock
Turning the pattern for the barrel and core print of the tail stock
The back side of the tail stock pattern
The finished pattern and the imprint in the green sand mold
The finished tail stock casting cleaned up and installed
The temporary center installed in the tail stock
The finished lathe!!!
Tools:
Aluminum foundry
Table saw
Drill
Drill press
Vise
Router
Band saw
Belt sander
Bi-metal hole saws
Air nailer
Air compressor
Tap & die set
Measuring tape
Squares
Grinder Sand blaster
Knife
Alan keys
Screwdrivers
Hammer
Pliers
Mig welder
Bench top grinder
Bench top sander
HSS tool bits
Wrenches
Clamps
And probably a whole bunch more that I forgot
Materials:
Aluminum
Cutting fluid
Bolts
1/2 HP motor
Angle iron
3/8" and 5/8" threaded rod
1/2", 5/8" and 3/4" cold rolled steel
3/8" by 5" cold rolled steel
1/4" by 3-1/2" cold rolled steel
Bronze bushings
And probably a whole bunch more that I forgot
Cost:
About $165.00 so far
Time:
250 hrs
Savings:
About $1000
Conclusion:
It's still on-going, but so far it's worked quite nicely
At the same time, if she asked "who would LOVE to do this?" I would have had to say "me, me, pick me!"
I am amazed. Also, I don't understand half the words you use any more. "heat rip", "set-over ways" "drag and cope" (which could be the name of a self-help group for cross dressers...)
I feel like being able to hang a picture just doesn't compete any more.
Chris Dave Gingery would be very proud of you. I am so impressed with what you have done. When you poured the bed, did you have help pouring and how much did the bed weigh? As far as table working your sand is a good idea but I do not have a back that would allow me to work that hard. The largest crucible I have holds a little bit more than 3 quarts. It is so heavy I installed a crane above it. One man operation you do what you need to do. Again love what you have done and showing it.
Chris What I see is the best yet and I've seen many Gingery Lathes. I saw one thing that come back to haunt you The pic labeled "A before and after picture of the reduction pulley" when you cut the face right up to the hub then straight out, you create a stress point and make it very prone to breakage. If you transition with a nice radius it will be much stranger. Love what you have done.
Nice work A better adaptation of the Gingery ideas I have not yet seen. Have you worn out the half nut yet? It has to be the worst part of the design. Also loved watching your progressive better and better gating. Have you moved to a better casting sand?
@Mark Kravchenko,I did end up selling my gingery lathe and bought an Emco Maximat V10 lathe instead. At the time of selling the gingery lathe the half nut had not worn out yet but I did have to drill a hole into the cross slide to allow me to push a 1/4" pin through and lock the handle of the lock nut so that it didn't disengage. That worked quite well but it took an extra second or two to disengage the half nut.
a possible idea that may have worked better is a ball and spring sort of like you find on socket wrenches (breaker bar, ratchet wrench etc). would still allow you to engage/disengage quickly but would hold it in place.
Looks great, but instead of going speed via belts and pully. I might have gone with a treadmill motor and electronic speed control. Lots of valuable information on YouTube on the subject. But what you might have is a 2-3 hp DC motor and verble speed control if your lucky you can find an older motor control board and not one of the newer ditigtal boards. However even with this system you'll need some type of drive train. These are being used for both Mills lathes, drill presses Sanders and anything else you can do with a electric motor. Like say a bandsaw. This is worth looking into.
Anonymous, As I am just starting to do research to use a 3 h.p. 90 volt D.C. treadmill motor myself, I am lacking the original speed control unit for it. I am just wondering why you said to use "an older motor control board and not one of the newer boards"?
Chris, AMAZING build!! Selling it, must have been a bit sad, it was like your child! (almost!) Rick in Oregon
Thanks for the writeup and the pics. I'm in the process of starting mine. Just finished the patterns for the bed and the feet this weekend. I'm casting mine out of ZA-8 instead of straight aluminum, and making the walls of all the castings 3/8" instead of 1/4". I like your idea of going with the wider bed, but I imagine that by the time I'm done building this lathe, I too will want a different one, I just want the experience and the fun of building my own.
Nice! I have been thinking about making one, found a set of 3-D printer files to make the patterns. Thinking of a propane smelter rather than the charcoal one David used.
you are insaine! seriously. who. does this???
ReplyDeletelove ya :)
I have to side with Mel...
ReplyDeleteAt the same time, if she asked "who would LOVE to do this?" I would have had to say "me, me, pick me!"
I am amazed. Also, I don't understand half the words you use any more. "heat rip", "set-over ways" "drag and cope" (which could be the name of a self-help group for cross dressers...)
I feel like being able to hang a picture just doesn't compete any more.
You are amazing!
Love you bro
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ReplyDeleteCRAZY CHRIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love Muetti
What I diverse range of machine tools. Good to see Nathaniel giving you a hand with machinery.
ReplyDeletewhat a great work!!! i fund you in my research to build my own lathe, again GREAT WORK!!!
ReplyDeleteBEAUTIFUL. !!! ;-)
ReplyDeleteChris
ReplyDeleteDave Gingery would be very proud of you. I am so impressed with what you have done. When you poured the bed, did you have help pouring and how much did the bed weigh? As far as table working your sand is a good idea but I do not have a back that would allow me to work that hard. The largest crucible I have holds a little bit more than 3 quarts. It is so heavy I installed a crane above it. One man operation you do what you need to do. Again love what you have done and showing it.
Thank you Nelson, I didn't have help pouring. I have a crucible that can hold about 15lbs of aluminum and with the hook it worked out fine by myself.
ReplyDeleteChris
ReplyDeleteWhat I see is the best yet and I've seen many Gingery Lathes. I saw one thing that come back to haunt you The pic labeled "A before and after picture of the reduction pulley" when you cut the face right up to the hub then straight out, you create a stress point and make it very prone to breakage. If you transition with a nice radius it will be much stranger. Love what you have done.
one thing that come back to haunt you
ReplyDeletecorrection
one thing that might come back to haunt you
nice work
ReplyDeleteGreat Work Man!!!
ReplyDeleteNice work A better adaptation of the Gingery ideas I have not yet seen. Have you worn out the half nut yet? It has to be the worst part of the design.
ReplyDeleteAlso loved watching your progressive better and better gating. Have you moved to a better casting sand?
@Mark Kravchenko,I did end up selling my gingery lathe and bought an Emco Maximat V10 lathe instead. At the time of selling the gingery lathe the half nut had not worn out yet but I did have to drill a hole into the cross slide to allow me to push a 1/4" pin through and lock the handle of the lock nut so that it didn't disengage. That worked quite well but it took an extra second or two to disengage the half nut.
ReplyDeletea possible idea that may have worked better is a ball and spring sort of like you find on socket wrenches (breaker bar, ratchet wrench etc). would still allow you to engage/disengage quickly but would hold it in place.
DeleteYep onward and upward.
ReplyDeleteUseful information for me. Thanks for your work!
ReplyDeleteWow am impressed sir I nice job sir.
ReplyDeleteI would like to carry this out as a project sir so I would need your assistance.
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Looks great, but instead of going speed via belts and pully. I might have gone with a treadmill motor and electronic speed control. Lots of valuable information on YouTube on the subject.
ReplyDeleteBut what you might have is a 2-3 hp DC motor and verble speed control if your lucky you can find an older motor control board and not one of the newer ditigtal boards. However even with this system you'll need some type of drive train. These are being used for both Mills lathes, drill presses Sanders and anything else you can do with a electric motor. Like say a bandsaw. This is worth looking into.
Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteAs I am just starting to do research to use a 3 h.p. 90 volt D.C. treadmill motor myself, I am lacking the original speed control unit for it.
I am just wondering why you said to use "an older motor control board and not one of the newer boards"?
Chris, AMAZING build!! Selling it, must have been a bit sad, it was like your child! (almost!)
Rick in Oregon
Thanks for the writeup and the pics. I'm in the process of starting mine. Just finished the patterns for the bed and the feet this weekend. I'm casting mine out of ZA-8 instead of straight aluminum, and making the walls of all the castings 3/8" instead of 1/4". I like your idea of going with the wider bed, but I imagine that by the time I'm done building this lathe, I too will want a different one, I just want the experience and the fun of building my own.
ReplyDeletetrabalho maravilhoso!!! congratulations !!!
ReplyDeleteNice! I have been thinking about making one, found a set of 3-D printer files to make the patterns.
ReplyDeleteThinking of a propane smelter rather than the charcoal one David used.